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Alt 14.01.2009, 17:19
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Wiki schreibt über ihn:

Zitat:
Theodore („Ted“) John Kaczynski (* 22. Mai 1942 in Chicago) ist ein
US-amerikanischer Mathematiker und mutmaßlicher Bombenleger.

Er soll im Zeitraum von 1978 bis 1995 16 Briefbomben an verschiedene
Personen in den USA verschickt haben, wodurch drei Menschen getötet
und weitere 23 verletzt wurden. Bevor seine Identität bekannt wurde,
bezeichnete man ihn als Unabomber (university and airline bomber), da
die Bomben vornehmlich an Universitätsprofessoren und Vorstandsmitglieder
von Fluggesellschaften geschickt wurden.
Zitat:
Kaczynski war in seiner Universitätszeit Proband einer von Dr. Henry A. Murray
geleiteten Persönlichkeitsstudie im Rahmen des vom CIA geleiteten Projektes
namens MKULTRA, welches seit den 1950er Jahren systematisch
Menschenversuche unter anderem mit LSD durchführte.
Wiki

Vielleicht wird sich jetzt mancher fragen, warum dieser
Beitrag nicht im Terrorthread steht.

Nun, einfach deshalb, weil der Unabomber der beste Beweis
dafür ist, das die Anti-Terrorgesetze wirkungslos sind.

Das wissen auch unsere Politiker, sie geben es bloß nicht zu.

Der Unabomber hat 17 Jahre lang Terror ausgeübt und
seine Festnahme ist einem Zufall zu verdanken.

Von "Dachorganisationen" unabhängige Kleinstgruppen
oder Einzeltäter sind durch keine Maßnahme im Vorfeld
eines Anschlages zu ermitteln.

Aber genau das Gegenteil wollen uns die "Sicherheitspolitiker"
vermitteln.

Bevor ein falscher Eindruck entsteht, ich distanziere mich
von seinen Taten und verabscheue Gewalt als Mittel zur
Veränderung.

Interessant aber, zumindest streckenweise, ist sein Manifest.

Das Manifest in deutscher Übersetzung

Wie ist eure Meinung zu diesem Manifest?
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Unsichtbar wird der Wahnsinn, wenn er genügend große Ausmaße angenommen hat.

Bertolt Brecht
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Alle sagten: Das geht nicht. Dann kam einer, der wusste das nicht, und hat es gemacht.

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Alt 15.01.2009, 01:14
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Ein durchaus interessantes, in jedem Fall lesenswertes Manifest
und ein denkwürdiger Lebenslauf noch dazu.

Meine Reaktionen reichten von über neben und =D> bis .
Viele der dargestellten Probleme und Entwicklungen sind mit Sicherheit
nicht von der Hand zu weisen, ja erschreckend realistisch und seine
düstere Prognose hat beinahe etwas vertrautes.

Aber Briefbomben an irgendwelche Leute zu schicken ist schon ein
bissel wahnsinnig.
Und deshalb bleibt die entscheidende Frage, in wie weit da vorher
bereits auf sein Bewußtsein eingewirkt, oder ob er bei dem MK Ultra
Programm tatsächtich nur "studiert" wurde?!
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Alt 15.01.2009, 18:32
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Ein Film von Lutz Dammbeck

Das Netz

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Infokrieger auf Abwegen?
Dressierter Killer?
Durchgeknallter Realist?

Wie schätzt Du denn den Mann und seine Geschichte ein
oder anders, würdest Du das mir zuliebe etwas näher ausführen?

Zitat:
Zitat von aristo
Nun, einfach deshalb, weil der Unabomber der beste Beweis
dafür ist, das die Anti-Terrorgesetze wirkungslos sind.

Das wissen auch unsere Politiker, sie geben es bloß nicht zu.

Der Unabomber hat 17 Jahre lang Terror ausgeübt und
seine Festnahme ist einem Zufall zu verdanken.

Von "Dachorganisationen" unabhängige Kleinstgruppen
oder Einzeltäter sind durch keine Maßnahme im Vorfeld
eines Anschlages zu ermitteln.
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Alt 16.01.2009, 15:09
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Zitat:
Zitat von lucy
Ein Film von Lutz Dammbeck

Das Netz

___________________________________


Infokrieger auf Abwegen?
Dressierter Killer?
Durchgeknallter Realist?

Wie schätzt Du denn den Mann und seine Geschichte ein
oder anders, würdest Du das mir zuliebe etwas näher ausführen?

Zitat:
Zitat von aristo
Nun, einfach deshalb, weil der Unabomber der beste Beweis
dafür ist, das die Anti-Terrorgesetze wirkungslos sind.

Das wissen auch unsere Politiker, sie geben es bloß nicht zu.

Der Unabomber hat 17 Jahre lang Terror ausgeübt und
seine Festnahme ist einem Zufall zu verdanken.

Von "Dachorganisationen" unabhängige Kleinstgruppen
oder Einzeltäter sind durch keine Maßnahme im Vorfeld
eines Anschlages zu ermitteln.
Ich halte ihn für einen intelligenten Kopf, der wohl durch
die Behandlung im MKUltraprogramm eine
Persönlichkeitsveränderung erfahren hat.

Ein Systemgegner, der leider mit den falschen
Methoden gearbeitet hat.
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Unsichtbar wird der Wahnsinn, wenn er genügend große Ausmaße angenommen hat.

Bertolt Brecht
_________________________________________
Alle sagten: Das geht nicht. Dann kam einer, der wusste das nicht, und hat es gemacht.

Hilbert Meyer

No Merkel - No Panic "Kein Rechtsanspruch auf Demokratie für alle Ewigkeit" Angela Merkel

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Alt 22.01.2009, 22:37
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Zitat:
Zitat von Theodore Kaczynski
SHIP OF FOOLS

Once upon a time, the captain and the mates of a ship grew so vain of
their seamanship, so full of hubris and so impressed with themselves,
that they went mad. They turned the ship north and sailed until they
met with icebergs and dangerous floes, and they kept sailing north into
more and more perilous waters, solely in order to give themselves
opportunities to perform ever-more-brilliant feats of seamanship.

As the ship reached higher and higher latitudes, the passengers and
crew became increasingly uncomfortable. They began quarreling among
themselves and complaining of the conditions under which they lived.

“Shiver me timbers,” said an able seaman, “if this ain’t the worst
voyage I’ve ever been on. The deck is slick with ice; when I’m on
lookout the wind cuts through me jacket like a knife; every time I reef
the foresail I blamed-near freeze me fingers; and all I get for it is a
miserable five shillings a month!”

“You think you have it bad!” said a lady passenger. “I can’t sleep at
night for the cold. Ladies on this ship don’t get as many blankets as
the men. It isn’t fair!”

A Mexican sailor chimed in: “¡Chingado! I’m only getting half the wages
of the Anglo seamen. We need plenty of food to keep us warm in this
climate, and I’m not getting my share; the Anglos get more. And the
worst of it is that the mates always give me orders in English instead
of Spanish.”

“I have more reason to complain than anybody,” said an American Indian
sailor. “If the palefaces hadn’t robbed me of my ancestral lands,
I wouldn’t even be on this ship, here among the icebergs and arctic
winds. I would just be paddling a canoe on a nice, placid lake.
I deserve compensation. At the very least, the captain should let me run
a crap game so that I can make some money.”

The bosun spoke up: “Yesterday the first mate called me a ‘fruit’ just
because I suck cocks. I have a right to suck cocks without being called
names for it!”

It’s not only humans who are mistreated on this ship,” interjected an
animal-lover among the passengers, her voice quivering with indignation.
“Why, last week I saw the second mate kick the ship’s dog twice!”

One of the passengers was a college professor. Wringing his hands he
exclaimed, “All this is just awful! It’s immoral! It’s racism, sexism, speciesism,
homophobia, and exploitation of the working class! It’s discrimination!
We must have social justice: Equal wages for the Mexican sailor, higher
wages for all sailors, compensation for the Indian, equal blankets for
the ladies, a guaranteed right to suck cocks, and no more kicking the dog!”

“Yes, yes!” shouted the passengers. “Aye-aye!” shouted the crew.
“It’s discrimination! We have to demand our rights!”

The cabin boy cleared his throat.

“Ahem. You all have good reasons to complain. But it seems to me that
what we really have to do is get this ship turned around and headed
back south, because if we keep going north we’re sure to be wrecked
sooner or later, and then your wages, your blankets, and your right to
suck cocks won’t do you any good, because we’ll all drown.”

But no one paid any attention to him, because he was only the cabin boy.

The captain and the mates, from their station on the poop deck, had
been watching and listening. Now they smiled and winked at one another,
and at a gesture from the captain the third mate came down from the
poop deck, sauntered over to where the passengers and crew were
gathered, and shouldered his way in amongst them. He put a very serious
expression on his face and spoke thusly:

“We officers have to admit that some really inexcusable things have
been happening on this ship. We hadn’t realized how bad the situation
was until we heard your complaints. We are men of good will and want to
do right by you. But – well – the captain is rather conservative and set in
his ways, and may have to be prodded a bit before he’ll make any
substantial changes.
My personal opinion is that if you protest vigorously – but always
peacefully and without violating any of the ship’s rules – you would shake
the captain out of his inertia and force him to address the problems of
which you so justly complain.”

Having said this, the third mate headed back toward the poop deck.
As he went, the passengers and crew called after him, “Moderate!
Reformer! Goody-liberal! Captain’s stooge!” But they nevertheless did as
he said. They gathered in a body before the poop deck, shouted insults at
the officers, and demanded their rights: “I want higher wages and better
working conditions,” cried the able seaman. “Equal blankets for women,”
cried the lady passenger.
“I want to receive my orders in Spanish,” cried the Mexican sailor. “I
want the right to run a crap game,” cried the Indian sailor. “I don’t want
to be called a fruit,” cried the bosun. “No more kicking the dog,” cried the
animal lover. “Revolution now,” cried the professor.

The captain and the mates huddled together and conferred for several
minutes, winking, nodding and smiling at one another all the while.
Then the captain stepped to the front of the poop deck and, with a
great show of benevolence, announced that the able seaman’s wages
would be raised to six shillings a month; the Mexican sailor’s wages would
be raised to two-thirds the wages of an Anglo seaman, and the order to
reef the foresail would be given in Spanish; lady passengers would
receive one more blanket; the Indian sailor would be allowed to run a
crap game on Saturday nights; the bosun wouldn’t be called a fruit as
long as he kept his cocksucking strictly private; and the dog wouldn’t be
kicked unless he did something really naughty, such as stealing food
from the galley.

The passengers and crew celebrated these concessions as a great
victory, but the next morning, they were again feeling dissatisfied.

“Six shillings a month is a pittance, and I still freeze me fingers when I
reef the foresail,” grumbled the able seaman. “I’m still not getting the
same wages as the Anglos, or enough food for this climate,” said the
Mexican sailor. “We women still don’t have enough blankets to keep us
warm,” said the lady passenger.
The other crewmen and passengers voiced similar complaints, and the
professor egged them on.

When they were done, the cabin boy spoke up – louder this time so that
the others could not easily ignore him:

“It’s really terrible that the dog gets kicked for stealing a bit of bread
from the galley, and that women don’t have equal blankets, and that the
able seaman gets his fingers frozen; and I don’t see why the bosun
shouldn’t suck cocks if he wants to. But look how thick the icebergs are
now, and how the wind blows harder and harder!
We’ve got to turn this ship back toward the south, because if we keep
going north we’ll be wrecked and drowned.”

“Oh yes,” said the bosun, “It’s just so awful that we keep heading north.
But why should I have to keep cocksucking in the closet?
Why should I be called a fruit? Ain’t I as good as everyone else?”

“Sailing north is terrible,” said the lady passenger. “But don’t you see?
That’s exactly why women need more blankets to keep them warm.
I demand equal blankets for women now!”

“It’s quite true,” said the professor, “that sailing to the north imposes
great hardships on all of us. But changing course toward the south would
be unrealistic. You can’t turn back the clock. We must find a mature way
of dealing with the situation.”

“Look,” said the cabin boy, “If we let those four madmen up on the poop
deck have their way, we’ll all be drowned. If we ever get the ship out of
danger, then we can worry about working conditions, blankets for
women, and the right to suck cocks. But first we’ve got to get this vessel
turned around. If a few of us get together, make a plan, and show some
courage, we can save ourselves. It wouldn’t take many of us – six or
eight would do. We could charge the poop, chuck those lunatics
overboard, and turn the ship to the south.”
The professor elevated his nose and said sternly, “I don’t believe in
violence.
It’s immoral.”

“It’s unethical ever to use violence,” said the bosun.

“I’m terrified of violence,” said the lady passenger.


The captain and the mates had been watching and listening all the
while. At a signal from the captain, the third mate stepped down to the
main deck. He went about among the passengers and crew, telling them
that there were still many problems on the ship.

“We have made much progress,” he said, “But much remains to be done.
Working conditions for the able seaman are still hard, the Mexican still
isn’t getting the same wages as the Anglos, the women still don’t have
quite as many blankets as the men, the Indian’s Saturday-night crap
game is a paltry compensation for his lost lands, it’s unfair to the bosun
that he has to keep his cocksucking in the closet, and the dog still gets
kicked at times.

“I think the captain needs to be prodded again. It would help if you
all would put on another protest – as long as it remains nonviolent.”

As the third mate walked back toward the stern, the passengers and the
crew shouted insults after him, but they nevertheless did what he said
and gathered in front of the poop deck for another protest. They ranted
and raved and brandished their fists, and they even threw a rotten egg
at the captain (which he skillfully dodged).

After hearing their complaints, the captain and the mates huddled for
a conference, during which they winked and grinned broadly at one
another. Then the captain stepped to the front of the poop deck and
announced that the able seaman would be given gloves to keep his
fingers warm, the Mexican sailor would receive wages equal to three-
fourths the wages of an Anglo seaman, the women would receive yet
another blanket, the Indian sailor could run a crap game on Saturday
and Sunday nights, the bosun would be allowed to suck cocks publicly
after dark, and no one could kick the dog without special permission
from the captain.

The passengers and crew were ecstatic over this great revolutionary
victory, but by the next morning they were again feeling dissatisfied
and began grumbling about the same old hardships.

The cabin boy this time was getting angry.

“You damn fools!” he shouted. “Don’t you see what the captain and the
mates are doing? They’re keeping you occupied with your trivial
grievances about blankets and wages and the dog being kicked so that
you won’t think about what is really wrong with this ship --– that it’s
getting farther and farther to the north and we’re all going to be
drowned. If just a few of you would come to your senses, get together,
and charge the poop deck, we could turn this ship around and save
ourselves. But all you do is whine about petty little issues like
working conditions and crap games and the right to suck cocks.”

The passengers and the crew were incensed.

“Petty!!” cried the Mexican, “Do you think it’s reasonable that I get
only three-fourths the wages of an Anglo sailor? Is that petty?

“How can you call my grievance trivial? shouted the bosun.
“Don’t you know how humiliating it is to be called a fruit?”

“Kicking the dog is not a ‘petty little issue!’” screamed the animal-lover.
“It’s heartless, cruel, and brutal!”

“Alright then,” answered the cabin boy. “These issues are not petty and
trivial. Kicking the dog is cruel and brutal and it is humiliating to be called
a fruit. But in comparison to our real problem – in comparison to the fact
that the ship is still heading north – your grievances are petty and trivial,
because if we don’t get this ship turned around soon, we’re all going to
drown.

“Fascist!” said the professor.

“Counterrevolutionary!” said the lady passenger. And all of the
passengers and crew chimed in one after another, calling the cabin boy
a fascist and a counterrevolutionary. They pushed him away and went
back to grumbling about wages, and about blankets for women, and
about the right to suck cocks, and about how the dog was treated.
The ship kept sailing north, and after a while it was crushed between two
icebergs and everyone drowned.
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