ICQ und andere proprietäre Instant Messenger

[Mr.Chainsaw]

Ich hoffe es benutzt von euch niemand ICQ, kann ich mir eigentlich nicht vorstellen
Aber guckt trotzdem mal besser hier:
http://bytebreaker.by.funpic.de/icq.html
Das Problem bezieht sich aber nicht nur im speziellen auf ICQ, sondern auf alle IM, hinter denen profitorientierte Unternehmen stehen. Diese bieten ihre Dienste natürlich nicht aus reiner Nächstenliebe an, sondern wollen vor allem auf ihre Kosten kommen.


Wer einen guten offenen IM als Alternative möchte, dem kann ich nur Jabber empfehlen. Dabei gibt es sogar SSL verschlüsselung und nix mehr mit abhören.

Ein einigermaßen schneller Einstieg für Neulinge, um sie zu sensibilisieren, könnte der Text sein.

Klar sein sollte einem, der irgendwelche Dienste nutzt, dass diese, sofern sie unverschlüßelt ablaufen, auch abgegriffen werden könnten!
Ob es sich dabei um z.B. Email unverschlüßelt, vergleichbar der Sicherheit einer Postkarte handelt. Wobei dieser Vergleich nicht ganz zutrifft.
Denn wenn man eine Postkarte verschickt, könnte sie der Postbote(Postboten) mitlesen - und gehen wir hier mal von 3 Postboten aus - dann sind es drei Personen, die "mitlesen" könnten.
Verschickt man jedoch etwas unverschlüßelt über das Internet, so ist in der Konstruktion des Internet, nicht unbedingt der Weg, den ein Paket nimmt vorhersehbar. Also könnte ein Paket (ein Stückchen einer internationalen Email) einmal über China laufen, ein andernmal über ein anderes Land.
Wenn jetzt jemand einfach nur kopiert, läßt sich evtl. der Klartext rekonstruieren, oder das Teilstückchen lesen.
Also evtl. 20-50 Postboten ...
Erfolgt nun die Kommunikation verschlüßelt, so könnte man die Email dann als in einem Briefumschlag vergleichen.


Genauso erfolgt die Kommunikation über

"http://"

Verbindungen auch mitlesbar. Deshalb sollte man, sofern man seine Daten eingibt, die

"https://"

(secure)
Verbindung bevorzugen.

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Messenger and Terms Of Service

Hier einmal ein paar Passagen, welche "Bedenken des Gebrauchs" auslösen könnten/sollten.

MICROSOFT



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Passport


http://news.com.com/2100-1023-255310.html?legacy=cnet

Privacy terms revised for Microsoft Passport
The software giant revises the "terms of use" for the service follwoing criticism that original language gave it Draconian control of customer communications.
By Stefanie Olsen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: April 4, 2001, 7:20 PM PDT

[...]

"By submitting any feedback or suggestions to Microsoft concerning the Passport Web Site or the Passport Service, you warrant and represent that you...are granting Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such feedback or suggestions."

[...]

According to the original terms of use which appeared on the site early Wednesday, "by posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, submitting any feedback or suggestions, or engaging in any other form of communication with or through the Passport Web Site, you...are granting Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to: Use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such communication."

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Hervorhebungen BOLD von mir ...

http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/fullnotice.aspx

Microsoft Online Privacy Statement
Supplemental Privacy Information

* Maps & Virtual Earth
* Messenger
* Microsoft Passport Network
* MSN Sites & Services
* MSN Premium Software
* Support Services
* Windows Live
* WindowsMedia.com
* Windows OneCare
* Xbox

Related Links

* Security at Home
* Trustworthy Computing
* FTC Privacy Initiatives

(last updated: January 2006)

Collection of Your Personal Information


In order to access some Microsoft services, you will be asked to sign in with an e-mail address and password, which we refer to as your credentials. In most cases, these credentials will be part of the Microsoft Passport Network, which means you can use the same credentials to sign in to many different Microsoft sites and services, as well as those of select Microsoft partners. By signing in on one Microsoft site or service, you may be automatically signed into other Microsoft sites and services.

[...]

At some Microsoft sites, we ask you to provide personal information, such as your e-mail address, name, home or work address or telephone number. We may also collect demographic information, such as your ZIP code, age, gender, preferences, interests and favorites. If you choose to make a purchase or sign up for a paid subscription service, we will ask for additional information, such as your credit card number and billing address, that is used to create a Microsoft billing account.

We may collect information about your visit, including the pages you view, the links you click and other actions taken in connection with Microsoft sites and services. We also collect certain standard information that your browser sends to every website you visit, such as your IP address, browser type and language, access times and referring Web site addresses.

[...]

In order to offer you a more consistent and personalized experience in your interactions with Microsoft, information collected through one Microsoft service may be combined with information obtained through other Microsoft services. We may also supplement the information we collect with information obtained from other companies. For example, we may use services from other companies that enable us to derive a general geographic area based on your IP address in order to customize certain services to your geographic area.


Use of Your Personal Information



Microsoft collects and uses your personal information to operate and improve its sites and deliver the services or carry out the transactions you have requested. These uses may include providing you with more effective customer service; making the sites or services easier to use by eliminating the need for you to repeatedly enter the same information; performing research and analysis aimed at improving our products, services and technologies; and displaying content and advertising that are customized to your interests and preferences.

[...]

Personal information collected on Microsoft sites and services may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries or agents maintain facilities, and by using a Microsoft site or service, you consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country. Microsoft abides by the safe harbor framework as set forth by the U.S. Department of Commerce regarding the collection, use, and retention of data from the European Union.

[...]

Sharing of Your Personal Information

[...]

Some Microsoft services may be co-branded and offered in conjunction with another company. If you register for or use such services, both Microsoft and the other company may receive information collected in conjunction with the co-branded services.

We occasionally hire other companies to provide limited services on our behalf, such as handling the processing and delivery of mailings, providing customer support, hosting websites, processing transactions, or performing statistical analysis of our services. Those companies will be permitted to obtain only the personal information they need to deliver the service. They are required to maintain the confidentiality of the information and are prohibited from using it for any other purpose.

We may access and/or disclose your personal information if we believe such action is necessary to: (a) comply with the law or legal process served on Microsoft; (b) protect and defend the rights or property of Microsoft (including the enforcement of our agreements); or (c) act in urgent circumstances to protect the personal safety of users of Microsoft services or members of the public.


[...]

Use of Cookies

Microsoft Web sites use "cookies" to enable you to sign in to our services and to help personalize your online experience. A cookie is a small text file that is placed on your hard disk by a Web page server. Cookies contain information that can later be read by a web server in the domain that issued the cookie to you. Cookies cannot be used to run programs or deliver viruses to your computer.

Microsoft Web sites use cookies to store your preferences and other information on your computer in order to save you time by eliminating the need to repeatedly enter the same information and to display your personalized content and appropriate advertising on your later visits to these sites.

When you sign in to a site using your credentials, the Microsoft Passport Network stores your unique ID number, and the time you signed in, in an encrypted cookie on your hard disk. This cookie allows you to move from page to page at the site without having to sign in again on each page. When you sign out, these cookies are deleted from your computer. The Passport Network also uses cookies to improve the sign in experience. For example, your e-mail address may be stored in a cookie that will remain on your computer after you sign out. This cookie allows your e-mail address to be pre-populated, so that you will only need to type your password the next time you sign in. If you are using a public computer or do not otherwise want this information to be stored, you can select the appropriate radio button on the sign-in page, and this cookie will not be used.

You have the ability to accept or decline cookies. Most Web browsers automatically accept cookies, but you can usually modify your browser setting to decline cookies if you prefer. If you choose to decline cookies, you may not be able to sign in or use other interactive features of Microsoft sites and services that depend on cookies.

Also wenn es geht und man noch unter dem unsicheren Betrübsystem unterwegs it, auf keinen Fall den InternetExploder benutzen.
In dem Alternativbrowser (Seamonkey[Mozilla-Nachfolger] , [Mozilla] Firefox , Opera ,....., [Safari, Konqueror , ..] ..

Die Cookies auf:
"Alle Cookies als Situngscookies behandeln" ; "Cookies : session only" ; "Cookies solange gültig bis Firefox geschlossen wird" ; .... einstellen.

Der InternetExploder hat andauernde Lücken und speichert nebenbei sehr viel, an vielen Orten, und teilweise auch schwer zu löschendes...
Einige(? alle halb-kommerziellen? unter M$?) Messenger setzen auf den InternetExplorer auf - sowie der Explorer ist eigentlich fast der InternetExplorer ..

Use of Web Beacons

Microsoft Web pages may contain electronic images known as Web beacons - sometimes called single-pixel gifs - that may be used to assist in delivering cookies on our sites and allow us to count users who have visited those pages and to deliver co-branded services. We may include Web beacons in promotional e-mail messages or our newsletters in order to determine whether messages have been opened and acted upon.

Microsoft may also employ Web beacons from third parties in order to help us compile aggregated statistics and determine the effectiveness of our promotional campaigns. We prohibit Web beacons on our sites from being used by third parties to collect or access your personal information.

Finally, we may work with other companies that advertise on Microsoft sites to place Web beacons on their sites in order to allow us to develop statistics on how often clicking on an advertisement on a Microsoft site results in a purchase or other action on the advertiser's site.

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MSN Messenger:

http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/messenger.aspx

Messenger Privacy Supplement

[...]

When you go to the MCI web site through Windows Live Messenger, you will be automatically signed into MCI's site with your Microsoft Passport credentials. When you place a voice call through Windows Live Messenger, we will transfer to MCI your Passport unique ID number and the phone number called, so that MCI can complete the call.

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http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/support.aspx

When you submit a support request, we may collect hardware, software, and other information related to the support incident. This may include: information about the condition of the computer and the application when the fault occurred and during diagnostics, system and registry data about software installations and hardware configurations, and error tracking files.

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http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/passport.aspx
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Windows Live:

Hervorhebungen BOLD von mir ...

http://tou.live.com/en-us/default.as...com&url=/en-us

8. Your Materials.

You may be able to submit materials for use in connection with the service. Except for material that we license to you, we do not claim ownership of the materials you post or otherwise provide to us related to the service (called a “submission”). However, by posting or otherwise providing your submission, you are granting to the public free permission to:

* use, copy, distribute, display, publish and modify your submission, each in connection with the service;
* publish your name in connection with your submission; and
* grant these permissions to other persons.

This section only applies to legally permissible content and only to the extent that use and publishing of the legally permissible content does not breach the law. We will not pay you for your submission. We may refuse to publish, and may remove your submission from the service at any time. For every submission you make, you must have all rights necessary for you to grant the permissions in this section.

9. Privacy.

We consider your use of the service to be private. However, we may access or disclose information about you, your account and/or the content of your communications, in order to: (1) comply with the law or legal process served on us; (2) enforce and investigate potential violations of this contract; including use of this service to participate in, or facilitate, activities that violate the law; or (3) protect the rights, property, or safety of Microsoft, its employees, its customers or the public. You consent to the access and disclosures outlined in this section.

We may use technology or other means to protect the service, protect our customers, or stop you from breaching this contract. These means may include, for example, filtering to stop spam or increase security. These means may hinder or break your use of the service.

In order to provide you the service, we may collect certain information about service performance, your machine and your service use. We may automatically upload this information from your machine. This data will not personally identify you. You may read about this information collection in more detail in the privacy policy at http://privacy.microsoft.com.

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Nebenbei - sher schlecht gelöstes Webfrontend... - Lies das nicht, dass ist zuviel Text, oder so ...

http://messenger.msn.com/help/terms.aspx

NET Messenger Terms of Use, Licenses, and Notices

.NET Messenger Service Terms of Use
[...]


The Microsoft .NET Messenger Service includes any services, software, machines, support, content and other media, updates or upgrades. We refer to all of these in this contract as the "Service."

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS CONTRACT LIMITS OUR LIABILITY AND WE DO NOT PROVIDE WARRANTIES FOR THE SERVICE. IT ALSO LIMITS YOUR REMEDIES. These terms are in Sections 9, 10 and 11 and we encourage you to review them carefully.
[...]

3.
HOW YOU MAY ACCESS AND USE THE SERVICE.

[...]

You may only use Microsoft software or authorized third-party software to sign into and use the Service. You can find a list of authorized third-party software at http://messenger.msn.com/Help/Authorized.aspx.
4.
WHAT YOU MAY NOT DO WITH THE SERVICE.

The privacy, safety and security of our Service and the users of our Service are very important to us. You may not use the Service in any way that could harm the Service, other Service users, Microsoft or our affiliates. Some examples of harmful activity that we do not permit include:

* Trying to gain access to any account, computers or networks related to the Service without authorization.
* Disrupting accounts, computers or networks related to the Service.
* Obtaining or trying to obtain any data through any means from the Service, except if we intend to provide or make it available to you.
* Using access to the Service to obtain any data to design, develop or update unauthorized software that you use or provide to others to access or use the Service.
* Charging others to use the Service either directly or indirectly.

You may not use the Service in any way that is against the law. You may not use the Service to send or receive messages or materials that are inappropriate or violate the intellectual property rights of Microsoft or others. Some examples of types of material and messages that we do not permit include:

* Using the Service to participate in pyramid schemes or chain letters.
* Using the Service to send, either directly or indirectly, any unsolicited bulk e-mail or communications or unsolicited commercial e-mail or communications.
* Defaming, abusing, harassing, stalking, threatening or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
* Creating a false identity for the purpose of misleading others.
* Sending or otherwise making available, any material protected by intellectual property laws unless you own or control the rights to such material or have received all necessary consents.
* Sending or otherwise making available any material that contains viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, cancelbots, corrupted files, or any other similar software that may damage the operation of another's computer or property.
* Downloading any material sent by another user of the Service that you know, or reasonably should know, cannot be legally distributed in such manner.
* Using, downloading or otherwise copying, or providing to a third party (whether or not for a fee) any (i) directory of users of the Service, (ii) information about users of the Service; or (iii) Service usage information.
* Falsifying or deleting any author attributions, legal or other proper notices or proprietary designations or labels of the origin of source of software or other material contained in a file that is transferred.
* Violating any code of conduct or other guidelines which may be applicable to the Service.
* Using any portion of the Service to harvest or otherwise collecting information about others, including e-mail addresses.

5.
PRIVACY.

If you are using MSN-branded software with the Service, please see the MSN Privacy Statement http://privacy.msn.com for notices about how we collect and use your information. If you are using any other software with the Service, please see the .NET Messenger Service Privacy Statement at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mes...vacypolicy.asp for notices about how we collect and use your information.

We consider your use of the Service, including the content of your communications, to be private. We do not routinely monitor your communications[/b] or disclose information about your communications to anyone. However, we may monitor your communications and disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, if we consider it necessary to: (1) comply with the law or to respond to legal process; (2) ensure your compliance with this contract; or (3) protect the rights, property, or interests of Microsoft, its employees, its customers, or the public.

Always use caution when giving out any personally identifiable information about yourself or your family.
6.
CONTENT AND THIRD PARTY SITES AND SERVICES LINKS.

[...]
we do not control third-party links and tabs and are not responsible for them. You are solely responsible for your dealings with any third party related to the Service, including the delivery of and payment for goods and services.
7.
SOFTWARE.

We may provide you with software to use with the Service. If you receive software from us, your use of that software is under the terms of the license that is presented to you for acceptance for such software. If there is no license presented to you, then we grant you the right to use the software only for the authorized use of the Service. We reserve all other rights to the software. Microsoft or its suppliers own the title, copyright, and other intellectual property rights in such software.

We may automatically check your version of the software. We may automatically download upgrades to such software to your computer to update, enhance and further develop the Service. Your license will terminate on the date your Service terminates. Your license will also terminate if Microsoft modifies the Service to no longer support such software. We may disable such software after the date the Service terminates.

You will not disassemble, decompile, or reverse engineer, any software or any machine included in the Service, except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law.

The software is subject to United States export laws and regulations. You must comply with all domestic and international export laws and regulations that apply to the software. These laws include restrictions on destinations, end users and end use. For additional information, see www.microsoft.com/exporting.
8.
PERFORMANCE AND USAGE DATA.

Microsoft may automatically upload performance and usage data for evaluating the Service and the software associated with the Service. Such data will not personally identify you. You may opt out of the automatic uploading of your usage data (but not performance data) as indicated in software associated with the Service.
9.
MICROSOFT MAKES NO WARRANTIES.

MICROSOFT PROVIDES THE SERVICE "AS IS," "WITH ALL FAULTS" AND "AS AVAILABLE," AND THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO SATISFACTORY QUALITY, PERFORMANCE, ACCURACY, AND EFFORT IS WITH YOU. TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, MICROSOFT, ITS AFFILIATES, RESELLERS, DISTRIBUTORS, SERVICE PROVIDERS AND/OR SUPPLIERS (EACH, A "MICROSOFT PARTY" AND COLLECTIVELY, THE "MICROSOFT PARTIES") MAKE NO REPRESENTATIONS, WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. THE MICROSOFT PARTIES DISCLAIM ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS, EXPRESS, STATUTORY AND IMPLIED, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION (1) WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, WORKMANLIKE EFFORT, ACCURACY, TITLE, QUIET ENJOYMENT, NO ENCUMBRANCES, NO LIENS AND NON-INFRINGEMENT, (2) WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS ARISING THROUGH COURSE OF DEALING OR USAGE OF TRADE, AND (3) WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS THAT ACCESS TO OR USE OF THE WEB SITES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE. THERE ARE NO WARRANTIES THAT EXTEND BEYOND THE FACE OF THIS CONTRACT.
10.
LIABILITY LIMITATION; YOUR EXCLUSIVE REMEDY.

IN NO EVENT WILL ANY MICROSOFT PARTY BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF, BASED ON, OR RESULTING FROM THIS CONTRACT OR YOUR USE OF THE SERVICE, EVEN IF SUCH MICROSOFT PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. THE EXCLUSION OF DAMAGES UNDER SECTION 10 IS INDEPENDENT OF YOUR EXCLUSIVE REMEDY AND SURVIVES IN THE EVENT SUCH REMEDY FAILS OF ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE OR IS OTHERWISE DEEMED UNENFORCEABLE. THESE LIMITATIONS AND EXCLUSIONS APPLY WITHOUT REGARD TO WHETHER THE DAMAGES ARISE FROM (1) BREACH OF CONTRACT, (2) BREACH OF WARRANTY, (3) NEGLIGENCE, OR (4) ANY OTHER CAUSE OF ACTION, TO THE EXTENT SUCH EXCLUSION AND LIMITATIONS ARE NOT PROHIBITED BY APPLICABLE LAW. IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE, YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH ANY PART OF THIS CONTRACT, OR YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISPUTE OR CLAIM WITH OR AGAINST ANY MICROSOFT PARTY WITH RESPECT TO THIS CONTRACT OR THE SERVICE, THEN YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY IS TO DISCONTINUE USING THE SERVICE.
11.
CHANGES TO THE SERVICE; ADDITIONAL LIABILITY LIMITATION.

WE MAY CHANGE THE SERVICE OR DELETE FEATURES AT ANY TIME AND FOR ANY REASON. WITHOUT LIMITING THE GENERAL NATURE OF SECTIONS 9 AND 10, THE MICROSOFT PARTIES ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE OR LIABLE FOR (1) ANY CONTENT, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY INFRINGING, INACCURATE, OBSCENE, INDECENT, THREATENING, OFFENSIVE, DEFAMATORY, TORTIOUS, OR ILLEGAL CONTENT, OR (2) ANY THIRD PARTY CONDUCT, TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA. IN ADDITION, WITHOUT LIMITING THE GENERALITY OF SECTIONS 9 AND 10, MICROSOFT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE OR LIABLE FOR (1) ANY VIRUSES OR OTHER DISABLING FEATURES THAT AFFECT YOUR ACCESS TO OR USE OF THE SERVICE, (2) ANY INCOMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE SERVICE AND OTHER WEB SITES, SERVICES, SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE, (3) ANY DELAYS OR FAILURES YOU MAY EXPERIENCE IN INITIATING, CONDUCTING OR COMPLETING ANY TRANSMISSIONS OR TRANSACTIONS IN CONNECTION WITH THE SERVICE IN AN ACCURATE OR TIMELY MANNER, OR (4) ANY DAMAGES OR COSTS OF ANY TYPE ARISING OUT OF OR IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH YOUR USE OF ANY SERVICES AVAILABLE FROM THIRD PARTIES THROUGH LINKS. THE LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND DISCLAIMERS IN SECTIONS 9, 10 AND 11 OF THIS CONTRACT APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, AND ARE NOT INTENDED TO DEPRIVE YOU OF ANY MANDATORY PROTECTIONS PROVIDED TO YOU UNDER APPLICABLE LAW.
12.
CUSTOMER SUPPORT.

Please consult the "help" section of the Service for how we may provide you with customer support ("Support"). Unless you have entered into a separate written support contract with Microsoft for the Service, however, we may terminate any Support we provide at any time.

Authorized third-party software that uses the Service is not supported by Microsoft. You should contact the provider of such software for support, if any.
13.
TERMINATION OF SERVICE.

Unless you, or a third party on your behalf, have a separate written contract with Microsoft that modifies this contract, then we may terminate or suspend your Service at any time. Our termination or suspension may be without cause and/or without notice. Upon Service termination, your right to use the Service stops right away. ONCE THE SERVICE IS CANCELLED OR SUSPENDED, ANY DATA YOU HAVE STORED ON THE SERVICE MAY NOT BE RETRIEVED LATER.

...by yourselfs old deleted account data - we may do whatever we want with it ...

[...]
19.
MICROSOFT'S NOTICES TO YOU; CONSENT REGARDING ELECTRONIC NOTICES.

We may give you any data regarding the Service in electronic form. We may provide such data to you via e-mail at the e-mail address you specified when you registered for the Service, by instant message to your account, or by access to a Microsoft web site. As long as you access and use the Service, you will have the necessary software and hardware to receive such notices. If you do not consent to receive any notices electronically, you must discontinue your use of the Service.
20.
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY NOTICES.

All contents of any Microsoft Web site related to the Service are: Copyright © 1999-2004 Microsoft Corporation and/or its suppliers, c/o Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052-6399 U.S.A. All rights reserved.

Microsoft is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.

The example companies, organizations, products, people and events depicted herein are fictitious. No association with any real company, organization, product, person, or event is intended or should be inferred.

Microsoft may have patents, patent applications, trademarks, copyrights, or other intellectual property rights covering subject matter in any Web pages that are part of the Service. Unless we have granted you licenses to our intellectual property in this contract, our providing you with such Web pages does not give you any license to our intellectual property. Any rights not expressly granted herein are reserved.
21.
NOTICES AND PROCEDURE FOR MAKING CLAIMS OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

Pursuant to Title 17, United States Code, Section 512(c)(2), notifications of claimed copyright infringement should be sent to Service Provider's Designated Agent. ALL INQUIRIES NOT RELEVANT TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE WILL RECEIVE NO RESPONSE. See Notice and Procedure for Making Claims of Copyright Infringement at http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyrtInfrg.htm.

Revised August 2004

Auch wenn ich schon viel herausgelassen habe, steht hier noch alles drinnen, um Microsoft usw. von jedweden Verpflichtungen loszusagen, und dem Nutzer "kein Recht" bei irgendetwas zuzugestehen.

Yahoo :

http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/mesg/

Yahoo! Privacy Policy

[...]
Information Collection and Use

General

* Yahoo! collects personal information when you register with Yahoo!, when you use Yahoo! products or services, when you visit Yahoo! pages or the pages of certain Yahoo! partners, and when you enter promotions or sweepstakes. Yahoo! may combine information about you that we have with information we obtain from business partners or other companies.
* When you register we ask for information such as your name, email address, birth date, gender, zip code, occupation, industry, and personal interests. For some financial products and services we may also ask for your address, Social Security number, and information about your assets. Once you register with Yahoo! and sign in to our services, you are not anonymous to us.
* Yahoo! collects information about your transactions with us and with some of our business partners, including information about your use of financial products and services that we offer.
* Yahoo! automatically receives and records information on our server logs from your browser, including your IP address, Yahoo! cookie information, and the page you request.
* Yahoo! uses information for the following general purposes: to customize the advertising and content you see, fulfill your requests for products and services, improve our services, contact you, conduct research, and provide anonymous reporting for internal and external clients.


[...]

Information Sharing and Disclosure


[...]
o We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These companies may use your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners. However, these companies do not have any independent right to share this information.

[...]
o We respond to subpoenas, court orders, or legal process, or to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims;
o We believe it is necessary to share information in order to investigate, prevent, or take action regarding illegal activities, suspected fraud, situations involving potential threats to the physical safety of any person, violations of Yahoo!'s terms of use, or as otherwise required by law.
[...]
* Yahoo! displays targeted advertisements based on personal information. Advertisers (including ad serving companies) may assume that people who interact with, view, or click on targeted ads meet the targeting criteria - for example, women ages 18-24 from a particular geographic area.
o Yahoo! does not provide any personal information to the advertiser when you interact with or view a targeted ad. However, by interacting with or viewing an ad you are consenting to the possibility that the advertiser will make the assumption that you meet the targeting criteria used to display the ad.
o Yahoo! advertisers include financial service providers (such as banks, insurance agents, stock brokers and mortgage lenders) and non-financial companies (such as stores, airlines, and software companies).
* Yahoo! works with vendors, partners, advertisers, and other service providers in different industries and categories of business. For more information regarding providers of products or services that you've requested please read our detailed reference links.

[...]
Cookies
[...]
Yahoo! uses web beacons to access Yahoo! cookies inside and outside our network of web sites and in connection with Yahoo! products and services.

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[...]
6. MEMBER CONDUCT

You understand that all information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages, tags, or other materials ("Content"), whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, are the sole responsibility of the person from whom such Content originated. This means that you, and not Yahoo!, are entirely responsible for all Content that you upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available via the Service. Yahoo! does not control the Content posted via the Service and, as such, does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such Content. You understand that by using the Service, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Under no circumstances will Yahoo! be liable in any way for any Content, including, but not limited to, any errors or omissions in any Content, or any loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of the use of any Content posted, emailed, transmitted or otherwise made available via the Service.

You agree to not use the Service to:

1. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
2. harm minors in any way;
3. impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, a Yahoo! official, forum leader, guide or host, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;
4. forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any Content transmitted through the Service;
5. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that you do not have a right to make available under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships (such as inside information, proprietary and confidential information learned or disclosed as part of employment relationships or under nondisclosure agreements);
6. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights ("Rights") of any party;
7. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation, except in those areas (such as shopping) that are designated for such purpose (please read our complete Spam Policy);
8. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any material that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;
9. disrupt the normal flow of dialogue, cause a screen to "scroll" faster than other users of the Service are able to type, or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users' ability to engage in real time exchanges;
10. interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Service;
11. intentionally or unintentionally violate any applicable local, state, national or international law, including, but not limited to, regulations promulgated by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, any rules of any national or other securities exchange, including, without limitation, the New York Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange or the NASDAQ, and any regulations having the force of law;
12. provide material support or resources (or to conceal or disguise the nature, location, source, or ownership of material support or resources) to any organization(s) designated by the United States government as a foreign terrorist organization pursuant to section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act;
13. "stalk" or otherwise harass another; and/or
14. collect or store personal data about other users in connection with the prohibited conduct and activities set forth in paragraphs a through m above.

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You acknowledge, consent and agree that Yahoo! may access, preserve and disclose your account information and Content if required to do so by law or in a good faith belief that such access preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to: (a) comply with legal process; (b) enforce the TOS; (c) respond to claims that any Content violates the rights of third parties; (d) respond to your requests for customer service; or (e) protect the rights, property or personal safety of Yahoo!, its users and the public.

You understand that the technical processing and transmission of the Service, including your Content, may involve (a) transmissions over various networks; and (b) changes to conform and adapt to technical requirements of connecting networks or devices.

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7. INTERSTATE NATURE OF COMMUNICATIONS ON YAHOO! NETWORK
When you register with Yahoo!, you acknowledge that in using Yahoo! services to send electronic communications (including but not limited to email, search queries, sending messages to Yahoo! Chat or Yahoo! Groups, uploading photos and files to Yahoo! Photos or Briefcase, and other Internet activities), you will be causing communications to be sent through Yahoo!'s computer networks, portions of which are located in California, Texas, Virginia, and other locations in the United States and portions of which are located abroad. As a result, and also as a result of Yahoo!’s network architecture and business practices and the nature of electronic communications, even communications that seem to be intrastate in nature can result in the transmission of interstate communications regardless of where you are physically located at the time of transmission. Accordingly, by agreeing to this Terms of Service, you acknowledge that use of the service results in interstate data transmissions.

[...]
9. CONTENT SUBMITTED OR MADE AVAILABLE FOR INCLUSION ON THE SERVICE

Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Service. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license(s), as applicable:

[...]

Hier folgt einiges - außerdem der "Ausschluß" von Yahoo Mail und Messenger -- allredings könnte ich da etwas übersehen haben?

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14. TERMINATION

You agree that Yahoo! may, under certain circumstances and without prior notice, immediately terminate your Yahoo! account, any associated email address, and access to the Service. Cause for such termination shall include, but not be limited to, (a) breaches or violations of the TOS or other incorporated agreements or guidelines, (b) requests by law enforcement or other government agencies, (c) a request by you (self-initiated account deletions), (d) discontinuance or material modification to the Service (or any part thereof), (e) unexpected technical or security issues or problems, (f) extended periods of inactivity, (g) engagement by you in fraudulent or illegal activities, and/or (h) nonpayment of any fees owed by you in connection with the Services. Termination of your Yahoo! account includes (a) removal of access to all offerings within the Service, including but not limited to Yahoo! Mail, Groups, Messenger, Chat, Domains, Personals, Auctions, Message Boards, Greetings, Alerts and Games, (b) deletion of your password and all related information, files and content associated with or inside your account (or any part thereof), and (c) barring of further use of the Service. Further, you agree that all terminations for cause shall be made in Yahoo!'s sole discretion and that Yahoo! shall not be liable to you or any third party for any termination of your account, any associated email address, or access to the Service.
[...]

GOOGLE
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Google Talk
Terms of Service
http://www.google.com/talk/terms.html

[...]
Description of Service. Google Talk is an instant messaging and voice calling service. You must have a Google Account to use Google Talk

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Ich meine, dass dieses schon überholt wäre?

( http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...=Google%20Talk
29.09.2006 13:02 heise online
Google Talk frei nutzbar )

[...]
Google reserves the right, but shall have no obligation, to investigate your use of the Service or the Client in order (a) to determine whether a violation of the Agreement has occurred or (b) to comply with any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request.

[...]

You agree that Google may access or disclose your personal information, including the content of your communications, if Google is required to do so in order to comply with any valid legal process or governmental request (such as a search warrant, subpoena, statute, or court order), or as otherwise provided in these Terms of Service and the Google Talk Privacy Policy. Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its agents maintain facilities. By using Google Talk, you consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country.
[...]
Google also reserves the right to access, read, preserve, and disclose any information as it reasonably believes is necessary to (a) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request, (b) enforce this Agreement, including investigation of potential violations hereof, (c) detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security or technical issues, (d) respond to user support requests, or (e) protect the rights, property or safety of Google, its users and the public. Google will not be responsible or liable for the exercise or non-exercise of its rights under this Agreement.
[...]

Your Intellectual Property Rights. Google does not otherwise claim any ownership in any of the content, including any text, data, information, images, photographs, music, sound, video, or other material, that you upload or transmit from, or store using, your Google Talk account.
[...]

13.
Termination; Uninstallation. You can uninstall the Client at any time through the "Add or Remove Programs" Control Panel. Google may, in its sole discretion, at any time and for any reason, terminate the Service, terminate this Agreement, or suspend or terminate your account. In the event of termination, your account will be disabled and you may not be granted access to your account or any files or other content contained in your account although residual copies of information may remain in our system for some time for back-up purposes. Sections 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, and 13 -18 of the Agreement, along with applicable provisions of the general Terms of Service (including the section regarding limitation of liability), shall survive expiration or termination.

[...]

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____

Gmail:

http://www.google.com/mail/help/terms_of_use.html
[quote]
[...]
Google reserves the right, but shall have no obligation, to investigate your use of the Service in order to determine whether a violation of the Agreement has occurred or to comply with any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request.


[...]
Content of the Service. Google takes no responsibility for third party content (including, without limitation, any viruses or other disabling features), nor does Google have any obligation to monitor such third party content. Google reserves the right at all times to remove or refuse to distribute any content on the Service, such as content which violates the terms of this Agreement. Google also reserves the right to access, read, preserve, and disclose any information as it reasonably believes is necessary to (a) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request, (b) enforce this Agreement, including investigation of potential violations hereof, (c) detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security or technical issues (including, without limitation, the filtering of spam), (d) respond to user support requests, or (e) protect the rights, property or safety of Google, its users and the public. Google will not be responsible or liable for the exercise or non- exercise of its rights under this Agreement.

[...]
Your Intellectual Property Rights. Google does not claim any ownership in any of the content, including any text, data, information, images, photographs, music, sound, video, or other material, that you upload, transmit or store in your Gmail account. We will not use any of your content for any purpose except to provide you with the Service.
[...]
Privacy. As a condition to using the Service, you agree to the terms of the Gmail Privacy Policy as it may be updated from time to time. Google understands that privacy is important to you. You do, however, agree that Google may monitor, edit or disclose your personal information, including the content of your emails, if required to do so in order to comply with any valid legal process or governmental request (such as a search warrant, subpoena, statute, or court order), or as otherwise provided in these Terms of Use and the Gmail Privacy Policy. Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its agents maintain facilities. By using Gmail, you consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country.
[...]
Advertisements. As consideration for using the Service, you agree and understand that Google will display ads and other information adjacent to and related to the content of your email. Gmail serves relevant ads using a completely automated process that enables Google to effectively target dynamically changing content, such as email. No human will read the content of your email in order to target such advertisements or other information without your consent, and no email content or other personally identifiable information will be provided to advertisers as part of the Service.
[...]

Google may at any time and for any reason terminate the Services, terminate this Agreement, or suspend or terminate your account. In the event of termination, your account will be disabled and you may not be granted access to your account or any files or other content contained in your account although residual copies of information may remain in our system.

[...]

Hier noch ein paar Meldungen, die ich bei der Fülle der evtl. zu Rate zu ziehenden Informationen , hier nur kurz anreißen werde....

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...eldung%2F64822
12.10.2005 10:31 Microsoft und Yahoo wollen bei Instant Messaging zusammenarbeiten [Update]

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...eldung%2F75414
13.07.2006 11:34 MSN und Yahoo schalten Instant-Messaging-Netze zusammen


http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...eldung%2F78743
27.09.2006 13:26 Yahoo und Microsoft beenden Beta-Phase für gemeinsames Messaging-Netz



http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...=Google%20Talk
29.09.2006 13:02 Google Talk frei nutzbar

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...6&words=Google
17.10.2004 16:18 Googles Desktop-Suche erregt Sicherheitsbedenken


http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...8668&words=AOL
26.09.2006 08:54 AOL wegen Veröffentlichung von Suchanfragen verklagt





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http://www.heise.de/newsticker/resul...eldung%2F75811
23.07.2006 14:10 Sicheres Chatten mit freier Software

Sicheres Chatten mit freier Software

Hacktivismo, eine internationale Gruppe von Hackern, Menschenrechtlern, Rechtsanwälten und Computer-Sicherheitsexperten, haben eine Open-Source-Anwendung für sicheres Chatten vorgestellt. Bei ScatterChat handelt es sich um eine modifizierte Version des Multi-Protokoll-Chat-Clients Gaim. Man kann mit der Software verschlüsselt via AIM, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo! oder Jabber kommunizieren, sichere Dateitransfers mit ScatterChat sind bisher erst via MSN und Yahoo! möglich. Der von Hacktivismo veröffentlichte Chat-Client greift zum Verschlüsseln auf die Bibliothek "libgcrypt" zurück. "Tor" stellt zudem eine Verbindung über das von den Bürgerrechtlern der Electronic Frontier Foundation ins Leben gerufene anonymisierende Kommunikationsnetzwerk The Onion Router (TOR) her.


Momentan steht neben dem Quelltext nur eine Windows-Variante der Software zum Download bereit. Versionen für Linux und Mac OS X sollen folgen. (adb/c't)

http://www.scatterchat.com/ (Wobei mir das Auge dort so bekannt vorkommt?!)


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http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
http://gaim-encryption.sourceforge.net/



Also weiß ich jetzt nicht, ob die dieses nicht kannten? Oder es nicht ins Bild passte...

http://www.scatterchat.com/feature_list.html

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Ansonsten sollte man auch bei Verschlüsselungssoftware öfter mal nach Updates schauen, also evtl. hier(gerade erst am 28.09.2006):

http://www.openssl.org/

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Und zuletzt, wenn man schon nicht seinem kaufpflichtigen - Security-by-Obscurity-Betrübssystem (M$Windows? ...) trauen kann,
meint man denn, dass alles besser wird, wenn man dann "Windows Vista" usw. alles hochsicher wird(vor dem User) und gut für die Medienindustrie ..
.. wie kann man dann einer Anwendung, die darauf läuft trauen?

Vielleicht sollte mal eine Blick über den Tellerrand werfen und ein freies, kostenloses, (sicheres), Linux ausprobieren.
Da ist nur drinnen, was man möchte ..... Man darf überall reingucken wenn man möchte ... Man ist sein eigener Herr, wenn man die Muße aufbringt...

Im Grundgedanken ist GNU/Linux immer für den Nutzer ... (kostenlos, frei verfügbar, im Quelltext vorhanden ....)


Microsoft meinte auch einmal, dass Passworte zu schwierig zu merken seien, sowie favorisieren sie auch Fingerabdruck-Scanner, auch wenn diese leicht überwunden werden können, nur damit dann vielleicht, das ganze System "authorisiert" wird, etwas tuen zu dürfen.

Ja, dann erinnert man sich an Microsoft 1.0 und Microsoft BOB
... oder warum der Nutzer blöd gehalten wirden sollte

[NWOFighter]

Hallo nobody

Vielen Dank für die umfassenden und hochinteressanten Infos!

[Masterofeye]

Ich nutze auch die meisten IM bisher ist mir mal der Account geklaut worden . Aber naja ....

[Soil]

Ich benutz auch ICQ... aber naja ich kann selber IPs über ICQ rausfinden....
das is nich besonders schwer.....
ansonst naja soviel regel ich eh nicht über ICQ..;D
eher über IRC oder Teamspeak oder real..;D
und das was ich im ICQ schreib is zu 99% nonsense xD das können se von mir aus alles lesen xDD außer das sie mich danach für nen idiot halten wird nichts passieren^^