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Alt 17.01.2009, 03:22
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Der Unterschied zwischen Judentum und Zionismus

Wegen des Massakers in Gaza durch die israelische Regierung, sind viele Menschen berechtigterweise sehr aufgebracht. Dabei vermischen sie in ihrer Kritik, Judentum und Zionismus. Deshalb finde ich es notwendig, den Unterschied zu erklären, damit nicht falsche beschuldigt werden.
http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot...entum-und.html
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Alt 17.01.2009, 03:24
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Danke Clemens

Ich persoenlich finde,auch wenns gern so von den Medien aufgebaut wird,sollte man den wahren Grund suchen nach dem Krieg,und den Glauben erstmal aussen vor lassen,auch wenn sich dort zwei unterschiedliche Religionen gegenueberstehen.
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Alt 17.01.2009, 14:16
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Ja sehr wichtig. Habe eine Doku gesehen da hat ein Zeuge erklärt wie Josef Stalin versucht hat seinen Todesschwadronen während der Säuberung in 1937 zu erklären,das es Zionisten und Juden gibt. Die ersten waren für den Abschuss freigegeben. Aber diese Leute haben es nicht sonderlich verstanden und haben alles was irgendwie jüdisch war umgebracht. Das hat Stalin auch nicht gefallen. Deswegen auch heute ganz wichtig.

Zionisten haben keine Bindung zum Land wo sie regieren/leben. Für sie zählt nur ihr Zion und dewegen arbeiten sie hochverräterisch gegen die Interessen des eigenen Landes.
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Alt 17.01.2009, 16:49
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Na endlich klärt das mal einer für die Laien auf sozusagen! ^^

Seit mal ehrlich im Mainstream und damit mein ich alle Repeater-Medien, wird auf dieses Thema absolut garnicht eingegangen, zumindest in Deutschland. Schlimmer noch, der Normalbürger fängt auch noch an zu Denken er wüsste wovon er redet und die Medien belassen einen auf diesem Level. Verdeutlichen eigentlich garnichts diesbezüglich. Sobald man in Repeater-Foren darüber sprechen möchte, wird man ja fast sofort als Antisemit bezeichnet, was mir dann direkt den wahren Kenntnisstand der "Gegenpartei" offen legt. ^^

Whatever, ich dank dir für den Link, ist kurz und sachlich auf den Punkt gebracht.

Lieben Gruß!

BTW, hier noch ein aktueller & interessanter Artikel von David Icke, zum Thema Israel:

TIME TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL ...
http://www.davidicke.com/israel
... WITHOUT FEAR OF THE MIND POLICE
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Alt 19.01.2009, 00:02
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The Long—and Largely Untold—History Of Jewish Opposition to Zionism
http://www.wrmea.org/archives/Decemb...8/0812054.html
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Alt 24.01.2009, 05:21
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Zionismus ist die Nationalbewegung der sog. Ost-Juden, also der Chasaren.
Chasaren sind keine Semiten.
Palästinenser sind Semiten.
Die altgrichische Silbe "anti" steht für "an Stelle von". Siehe z.B. Anti-Christ.

Chasaren wollen "an Stelle von" Palästinensern Palästina für sich allein.

Wer sind die wirklichen "Anti-Semiten"?

Der dreizehnte Stamm. Das Reich der Khasaren und sein Erbe
http://66.249.93.147/search?q=der+dreizehnte+stamm

http://www.pm-magazin.de/de/wissensnews/wn_id1532.htm
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-biblio/toc.html
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasaren
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars_in_fiction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_V._(Byzanz)
http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2003/12/19968.php
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aschkenasim
http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriors/khazar.html




Chasaren, also "Ost-Juden" werden im "Judentum" auch "Ashkenazi"
http://66.249.93.147/search?q=ashkenazi genannt. Echte Juden, also echte Semiten, werden Sefardi bzw. Sephardim genannt.

Gemäß dieser Meldung werden die Kinder der Sephardim von den Zionisten bewusst, gezielt radioaktiv bestrahlt damit sie keine Nachkommen zeugen können, um die echten Juden auszurotten..

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The Zionists Poisoned/Radiated 100,000 Sefardi Jewish Children.

On August 14, at 9 PM, Israeli television station, Channel Ten, broke all convention and exposed the ugliest secret of Israel's Labor Zionist founders; the deliberate mass radiation poisoning of nearly all Sephardi youths.

The expose began with the presentation of a documentary film called, 100,000 Radiations, and concluded with a panel discussion moderated by TV host Dan Margalit, surprising because he is infamous for toeing the establishment line.

Film Details:

100,000 Radiations, released by Dimona Productions Ltd. in 2003.

Producer - Dudi Bergman Directors - Asher Khamias, David Balrosen

Panel Discussion Participants

A Moroccan singer was joined by David Edri, head of the Compensation Committee for Ringworm X-Ray Victims, and Boaz Lev, a spokesman for the Ministry Of Health.

Subject:

In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba flew to America and returned with 7 x-ray machines, supplied to him by the American army.

They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300,000 Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60,000 liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today.

To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, the many of the rest developed cancers that killed them over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.

Yes, that is the subject of the documentary in cold terms. It is another matter to see the victims on the screen. ie. To watch the Moroccan lady describe what getting 35,000 times the dose of allowable x-rays in her head feels like.

"I screamed make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. But it never went away."

To watch the bearded man walk hunched down the street.

"I'm in my fifties and everyone thinks I'm in my seventies. I have to stoop when I walk so I won't fall over. They took my youth away with those x-rays."

To watch the old lady who administered the doses to thousands of children.

"They brought them in lines. First their heads were shaved and smeared in burning gel. Then a ball was put between their legs and the children were ordered not to drop it, so they wouldn't move. The children weren't protected over the rest of their bodies. There were no lead vests for them. I was told I was doing good by helping to remove ringworm. If I knew what dangers the children were facing, I would never have cooperated. Never!"

Because the whole body was exposed to the rays, the genetic makeup of the children was often altered, affecting the next generation. We watch the woman with the distorted face explain, "All three of my children have the same cancers my family suffered. Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence?"

Everyone notices that Sephardi women in their fifties today, often have sparse patchy hair, which they try to cover with henna. Most of us assumed it was just a characteristic of Sephardi women. We watch the woman on the screen wearing a baseball-style hat. She places a picture of a lovely young teenager with flowing black hair opposite the lens. "That was me before my treatment. Now look at me." She removes her hat. Even the red henna can't cover the horrifying scarred bald spots.

The majority of the victims were Moroccan because they were the most numerous of the Sephardi immigrants. The generation that was poisoned became the country's perpetual poor and criminal class. It didn't make sense. The Moroccans who fled to France became prosperous and highly educated. The common explanation was that France got the rich, thus smart ones. The real explanation is that every French Moroccan child didn't have his brain cells fried with gamma rays.

The film made it perfectly plain that this operation was no accident. The dangers of x-rays had been known for over forty years. We read the official guidelines for x-ray treatment in 1952.

The maximum dose to be given a child in Israel was .5 rad. There was no mistake made. The children were deliberately poisoned. David Deri, makes the point that only Sephardi children received the x-rays.

"I was in class and the men came to take us on a tour. They asked our names. The Ashkenazi children were told to return to their seats. The dark children were put on the bus."

The film presents a historian who first gives a potted history of the eugenics movement. In a later sound bite, he declares that the ringworm operation was a eugenics program aimed at weeding out the perceived weak strains of society. The film now quotes two noted anti-Sephardi racist Jewish leaders, Nahum Goldmann and Levi Eshkol.

Goldmann spent the Holocaust years first in Switzerland, where he made sure few Jewish refugees were given shelter, then flew to New York to become head of the World Jewish Congress headed by Samuel Bronfman. According to Canadian writer Mordecai Richler, Bronfman had cut a deal with Prime Minister Mackenzie King to prevent the immigration of European Jews to Canada.

But Levi Eshkol's role in the Holocaust was far more minister than merely not saving lives. He was busy taking them instead. From a biography of Levi Eshkol from the Israeli government web site:

"In 1937 Levi Eshkol played a central role in the establishment of the Mekorot Water Company and in this role was instrumental in convincing the German government to allow Jews emigrating to Palestine to take with them some of their assets - mostly in the form of German-made equipment."

While world Jewry was boycotting the Nazi regime in the '30s, the Jewish Agency in Jerusalem was propping up Hitler. A deal, called The Transfer Agreement, was cut whereby the Nazis would chase Germany's Jews to Palestine, and the Labor Zionists would force the immigrants to use their assets to buy only German goods. Once the Jewish Agency got the German Jews it wanted, those they secretly indoctrinated in the anti-Judaism of Shabtai Tzvi and Jacob Frank, they let the Nazis take care of the rest of European Jewry. The Holocaust was a eugenics program and Levi Eshkol played a major role in it.

The Moroccan lady is back on the screen. "It was a Holocaust, a Sephardi Holocaust. And what I want to know is why no one stood up to stop it."

David Deri, on film and then as a panel member, relates the frustration he encountered when trying to find his childhood medical records.

"All I wanted to know was what they did to me. I wanted to know who authorized it. I wanted to trace the chain of command. But the Health Ministry told me my records were missing."

Boaz Lev, the Health Ministry's spokesman chimes in, "Almost all the records were burned in a fire."

So, let us help Mr. Deri trace the chain of command. But now I must intrude myself in the review.

About six years ago, I investigated the kidnapping of some 4500, mostly Yemenite immigrant infants and children, during the early years of the state. I met the leader of the Yemenite children's movement, Rabbi Uzi Meshulum, imprisoned for trying to get the truth out. He was later returned home in a vegetative state from which he has not emerged. He told me that the kidnapped children were sent to America to die cruelly in nuclear experiments.

The American government had banned human testing and needed guinea pigs. The Israeli government agreed to supply the humans in exchange for money and nuclear secrets. The initiator of Israel's nuclear program was Defence Ministry director-general Shimon Peres.

Rabbi David Sevilia of Jerusalem corroborated the crime and later, I even saw photos of the radiation scars on the few surviving children, and the cages the infants were shipped to America in.

Just over five years ago I published my belief on the internet, that Israel's Labor Zionist founders had conducted atomic experiments on Yemenite and other Sephardi children, killing thousands of them. Almost three years ago, I published the same assertion in my last book, Save Israel!. I suffered much scorn for doing so. However, I was right.

We return to the documentary. We are told that a US law in the late '40s put a stop to the human radiation experiments conducted on prisoners, the mentally feeble and the like. The American atomic program needed a new source of human lab rats and the Israeli government supplied it.

Here was the government cabinet at the time of the ringworm atrocities:

Prime Minister - David Ben Gurion Finance Minister - Eliezer Kaplan Settlement Minister - Levi Eshkol Foreign Minister - Moshe Sharrett Health Minister - Yosef Burg Labor Minister - Golda Meir Police Minister - Amos Ben Gurion

The highest ranking non-cabinet post belonged to the Director General Of The Defence Ministry, Shimon Peres.

That a program involving the equivalent of billions of dollars of American government funds should be unknown to the Prime Minister of cash-strapped Israel is ridiculous. Ben Gurion was in on the horrors and undoubtedly chose his son to be Police Minister in case anyone interfered with them.

Now let's have a quick glance at the other plotters, starting with the Finance Minister Eliezer Kaplan. He handled the profits of the operation and was rewarded for eternity with a hospital named after him near Rehovot. But he's not alone in this honor.

The racist bigot Chaim Sheba, who ran Ringworm Incorporated, had a whole medical complex named after him. Needless to say, if there is an ounce of decency in the local medical profession, those hospital names will have to change.

Then there is Yosef Burg, who the leaders of the Yemenite Children's movement insist was the most responsible for the kidnappings of their infants. As Health Minister, he certainly played a pivotal role in the Ringworm murders. That would go a great way to explaining the peculiar behavior of his son, the peacemaker, Avraham Burg.

Let us not forget Moshe Sharrett, who had Rabbi Yoel Brand arrested in Aleppo in 1944 for proposing a practical way to save 800,000 Jews trapped in Hungary. Sharrett's most cited quote is, "If Shimon Peres ever enters this government, I will tear my clothes and start to mourn." Several Yemenite Children activists told me Sharrett was referring to the kidnapping of the Yemenite children when he made this statement.

And other amateur historians have told me that Levi Eshkol openly and proudly announced his belief in the tenets of Shabtai Tzvi, but try as I have, I haven't tracked down a citation. However, we do know of Eshkol, that during the period of the radiations, he served first as Settlement Minister, then took over from Kaplan as Finance Minister. From his bio:

"In 1951 Eshkol was appointed Minister of Agriculture and Development, and from 1952 to 1963 - a decade characterized by unprecedented economic growth despite the burden of financing immigrant absorption and the 1956 Sinai Campaign - he served as Minister of Finance. Between 1949 and 1963, Eshkol also served as head of the settlement division of the Jewish Agency. In the first four years of statehood, he was also treasurer of the Jewish Agency, largely responsible for obtaining the funds for the country's development, absorption of the massive waves of immigrants and equipment for the army."

In short, Eshkol was the person most responsible for Israel's immigrants, the ones he sent to radiation torture chambers. Finally, there is Golda Meir. We don't know her role, but she was in on the secret and rewarded for it. Note that every prime minister thereafter until 1977, when the honorable Menachem Begin was elected, came from this cabal. And note also, that no one from what is called the Right today, was privy to the slaughter of the Sephardi children.

Apply that lesson to a contemporary fact: It is the descendants of these butchers who brought us the Oslo "peace" and are determined to wipe out the settlers of Judea, Samaria and Gaza as surely as they had dealt with the inferior dark Jews who came into their clutches fifty years before. Now try and imagine it is 1952 and you are in a cabinet meeting. You will be debating whether to send the Yemenite babies to America for their final zapping, or whether to have them zapped here. That is what the Luciferian, satanic Sabbataian founders of our nation were prattling on about when they got together to discuss the affairs of state.

After the film ended, TV host Dan Margalit tried to put a better face on what he'd witnessed. Any face had to be better than what he had seen. He explained meekly, "But the state was poor. It was a matter of day to day survival." Then he stopped. He knew there was no excusing the atrocities the Sephardi children endured.

But it was the Moroccan singer who summed up the experience best. "It's going to hurt, but the truth has to be told. If not, the wounds will never heal."

There is one person alive who knows the truth and participated in the atrocities. He is Leader Of The Opposition Shimon Peres, the peacemaker. The only way to get to the truth and start the healing is to investigate him for his role in the kidnapping of 4500 Yemenite infants and the mass poisoning of over 100,000 Sephardi children and youths.

But here is why that won't happen. It is a miracle that 100,000 Radiations was broadcast at all. Clearly though, someone fought for it but had to agree to a compromise. The show was aired at the same time as the highest-rated show of the year, the final of Israel's, A Star Is Born. The next day, there was not a word about 100,000 Radiations in any paper, but the newly-born star's photo took up half the front pages.

That's how the truth is buried in Israel, and somehow, these tricks work. The same methods were used to cover up the Rabin assassination.

However, a few hundred thousand people saw the film on their screens and they will never forget the truth. If the Rabin assassination doesn't bury Labor Zionism for good, then 100,000 Radiations eventually will.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/03/194660.php
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UK Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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Alt 24.01.2009, 11:28
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Zitat:
Zitat von Clemens
Zionismus ist die Nationalbewegung der sog. Ost-Juden, also der Chasaren.
Chasaren sind keine Semiten.
Palästinenser sind Semiten.
Die altgrichische Silbe "anti" steht für "an Stelle von". Siehe z.B. Anti-Christ.

Chasaren wollen "an Stelle von" Palästinensern Palästina für sich allein.

Wer sind die wirklichen "Anti-Semiten"?

tja, wer das einmal begriffen hat fühlt sich erleichtert gegenüber der staatsraison in sachen israel (dialektik ick hör dir trapsen)...in der schule lernt man sowas ja auch nicht

hier noch 2 tips:

beziehungen des 3. reich und jüdisch palästina (wohl gemerkt, adi dealte mit den zionisten )

http://www.amazon.de/Transfer-Agreem...2788364&sr=1-2

rothschild und die jüdische kolonisation in palästina

http://www.amazon.de/Rothschild-Colo...2788543&sr=1-7
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Alt 24.01.2009, 17:03
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Die altgrichische Silbe "anti" steht für "an Stelle von". Siehe z.B. Anti-Christ.
Nach mehreren Jahren Alt-Griechisch kann ich Dir sagen, dass "anti" eigentlich fast immer "gegen" heißt, demnach ein Anti-Semit jmd. ist, der feindlich gegenüber Semiten eingestellt ist, was nicht zwingend heißt, dass er anstelle dieser deren Land bewohnen möchte... Ein bisschen viel des Zurechtschiebens an der Stelle.
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Zitat:
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Nach mehreren Jahren Alt-Griechisch kann ich Dir sagen, dass "anti" eigentlich fast immer "gegen" heißt, demnach ein Anti-Semit jmd. ist, der feindlich gegenüber Semiten eingestellt ist, was nicht zwingend heißt, dass er [size=18]anstelle[/size] dieser deren Land bewohnen möchte...
nun ja hast schon recht das es oft als "(da-)gegen" übersetzten kann. Man kann es aber auch als Vize(präsident)- Andiproederos bzw. Stellvertreter übersetzen.
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